Episode 25: You See, Ivan

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THIS WEEK: Van and Sven rant about time travel and bad parenting. Guess which topic is going to make them angrier! In this stretch, we’re introduced to a new antagonistic quartet; we discuss the origins of the word “cyborg”; we get corrections coming from inside the podcast; Ivan Whisky is stone fucking cold; and the hosts betray each other just as much as the 00-cyborgs dump on Jet.

Minor correction: “2222” and “2020” are mentioned as the year Rina comes from, the correct one is 2222. Nuclear devastation is not actually coming in two years. Hopefully.

Content warning: There’s some rather frank (and heated) discussion about parental abuse and the tactics abusers use at the end of our coverage, the bulk of it from 1:44:24 to 1:50:10 .


  • Cyborg 009: The Cyborg Soldier (2001) S2E13-S2E16
  • Kline & Clynes’ Astronautics article
  • The Mutant Warriors (Rina, Phil, Cain, Mii/Mai)
  • Cain and Mai’s manga counterparts
  • “FOX…DIE!” (pt. 2)
  • Dr. Gamo Whisky (Asimov?)
  • Ending themes
  • The Men Who Stare At Goats
  • Time labyrinths
  • Clap your hands if you believe in the sync warp
  • The terrible no-good very bad future
  • Jet & Francoise’s friendship
  • Joe’s breakdown
  • Van desperately tries to find a silver lining
  • Dr. Gamo vs Dr. Gilmore
  • Having faith & losing faith
  • Walkbacks and backdowns


  • “Fight! Seven Riders!! Showa Rider Taisen” – Kamen Rider x Kamen Rider Fourze & OOO: Movie War Megamax
  • “Kagerou Days” – Jin ft. Shouichi Taguchi – Mekakucity Actors
  • “The War Still Rages Within” – Jamie Christopherson – Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
  • Chiaki Ishikawa – “Taga Tame Ni”


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